1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

[PRY4SNO]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

Looks like there's a lot of room left in that tune...

(I know it's a 2.0t vs. 1.8t, but still)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyGFEJxxihY

[PRY4SNO]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXVi10qVCs0

[PRY4SNO]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

Officially confused lol. Are we talking about PRY4SNO's old B6's motor blowing up because someone dropped a bolt into it???

Yeah, that happened, just as I was ready to commit to a FT+meth set up. By the guy everyone nutswings for around here too. Le sigh..... Anyways, not long afterwards I dumped the b6 and focused on my coupe(s).

EFR's are all the rage for a while and then the leadtimes promptly stopped any sort of real development for the 1.8T platform.

I would have loved to run one instead of my GT30 but waiting a few months for a new turbo was not an option.

Pat that was years ago. EFRs are easy (enough) to get nowadays. And no more investment housing casting issues. But they do cost more than a FT setup (hence my recommendation to flex a FT setup all the way until you can put a proper BT/BAT set up together). Mike @ Ringer Racing is who I bought mine from. Best guy to talk to and deal with, IMO. Especially for 1.8t. Also, Geoff Racier @ FullRace is the major EFR distributor for BW, and he really helped with me pricing and tech info. I believe he had a lot to do with development from the aftermarket standpoint, and was instrumental in getting non-WG housings with v-band in/out. I could kiss him for that lol

Theres a guy on Audizine (Operator) with a 2.0 build on his red b7, think it's an efr6758.
link: (Öperator's) - K0R-GT to EFR Build - Page 32 - Audizine

And there are others with the EFR out there, but you'd probably have to search a bit. Vortex maybe? Unfortunately the EFR didn't blow up like billet version of old-tech turbos (e.g. HTA, GTX, CT, PTE, etc). Good for me though, I like to be somewhat different.

[Disturbo]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

T3 super 60 is a great little turbo on the 1.8t. Lots of people have been having great luck with them.

[onceover]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

EFR's are all the rage for a while and then the leadtimes promptly stopped any sort of real development for the 1.8T platform.

I would have loved to run one instead of my GT30 but waiting a few months for a new turbo was not an option.

[hooddub]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

Officially confused lol. Are we talking about PRY4SNO's old B6's motor blowing up because someone dropped a bolt into it???

[All_Euro]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

Before what happened? Real big turbo?
Mind answering my other questions?

Youch... I was on hand at the time so let me just say that someone at a well known local shop dropped a bolt down the spark plug hole and buttoned everything up and sent him packing - then things went from bad to worse... n worser.

In other news, there is some EFR action floating around though... and that should put a smile on anyones face

As noted before, the GTT package from Gonzo will be your best bang for buck, hands down (nice step up from FT as well) but I don't believe he's making longitudinal kits just yet - although he will if five people commit.

[hooddub]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

Sold my b6 before that happened. But I researched the ish out of it to reach that conclusion.

Before what happened? Real big turbo?
Mind answering my other questions?

[PRY4SNO]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

Exactly what I was thinking.. Even a GTRS set-up was just starting to look a bit expensive on my current budget but I also don't want to get stuck with a k03. My GTI I found okay in terms of power with a k03 but my B6 not so much. How did you enjoy your FT? I was also playing with the idea of a meth kit just for a shits haha
Did you install the turbo yourself/did you find any difficulties with install/fitment?
Did you run stock lines or did the frankenturbo require new lines?

Sold my b6 before that happened. But I researched the ish out of it to reach that conclusion.

[doubleclutch]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

Mostly at this point it comes down to budget. I don't want a huge turbo due to this being my only car and I want to be able to spool up around the city before 4500rpm which is why I was going to do a GTRS but realistically the cost of putting together a GTRS set up is a little high for me so I've been doing my research on frankenturbos an they look good!

I'm at full boost by 4500 ish. But I still have stock head and cams and only running 12psi. My turbo is also only a journal bearing not ball bearing. The newer turbo tech has come a long way since the gt series I have was state of the art.

[hooddub]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

And just to clarify, this isn't MY thread, it's for anyone who has questions about anything related to 1.8T turbo set-ups!

[hooddub]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

If you want to stay with a relatively smaller turbo in this case you may want to talk to GTS (aka gonzo) and see if they can put together a kit for you or make recommendations. Their GTT turbo will put down 260-270whp without additional mods and if you build the block in the future it can put out tons of power. Typically a direct bolt on for a mk4, a very quick spooling turbo but with tuning it can be rod safe.
Their kit is typically only about $1600-1700 i think for the mk4 but not sure what all is included

This could also be an option! I was initially thinking I would do rods but not build my motor and make a safe smaller big turbo set up but it's just looking less and less likely to happen due to expenses. I'll look into the GTT and see what is available for a similar price as the FT kit

[hooddub]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

Borg warner EFR series turbos are awesome.

That being said mixing a large compressor with a small hotside makes for alot of fun as well. My gt32 with a .48 ar hotside is a riot. Plenty of usable power and minimal lag. But in the end it comes down to your power goals. What kind of driving you want to do, and how much you want to change to make it all work properly.
And I guess your budget as well

Mostly at this point it comes down to budget. I don't want a huge turbo due to this being my only car and I want to be able to spool up around the city before 4500rpm which is why I was going to do a GTRS but realistically the cost of putting together a GTRS set up is a little high for me so I've been doing my research on frankenturbos an they look good!

[hooddub]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

FWIW, when I had my b6 I was going with FT and meth for a daily driver. Wanted to enjoy merging in rush hour, some highway pulls or at auto-x / HPDE type days.

IMO, It's about the best all round set up for response down low and some jam up top on a stock block.

For the price, the FT kits punch above their weight class.

Build the head when you get bored, maybe the bottom end... then graduate to an EFR set up.

Exactly what I was thinking.. Even a GTRS set-up was just starting to look a bit expensive on my current budget but I also don't want to get stuck with a k03. My GTI I found okay in terms of power with a k03 but my B6 not so much. How did you enjoy your FT? I was also playing with the idea of a meth kit just for a shits haha
Did you install the turbo yourself/did you find any difficulties with install/fitment?
Did you run stock lines or did the frankenturbo require new lines?

[MechEngg]

Re: 1.8T Turbo Upgrade Discussion Thread

If you want to stay with a relatively smaller turbo in this case you may want to talk to GTS (aka gonzo) and see if they can put together a kit for you or make recommendations. Their GTT turbo will put down 260-270whp without additional mods and if you build the block in the future it can put out tons of power. Typically a direct bolt on for a mk4, a very quick spooling turbo but with tuning it can be rod safe.
Their kit is typically only about $1600-1700 i think for the mk4 but not sure what all is included