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  • URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

    Long backstory, strap-in haha

    Bought a Cyclamen Pearl/Ecru 1993 UrS4 with 267k km on January 2, 2013 from a good friend for a winter beater. It was a solid runner, but leaked PS fluid at about 1L/100km. Plus a laundry list of other issues, mostly electrical.

    Purchase day. I also stored Gertrude, my ever faithful beater parts coupe, at his place since I didn't have the parking.


    So my buddy Kenny (morris400) clued me into a black on black '92-spec '93 shell where I might be able to score some parts. Turns out, I'd bought rear A8 calipers for my Cq off the owner (Rob) before. I totally forgot about how he'd windowed the block and had this car sitting at his friend Keegan's acreage.




    As it was, Rob didn't want to part the car any further than he'd already gone, so the PS system wasn't up for grabs on its own.

    But!

    The car had so much going for it that it was worth the price of entry. And the work involved to do the swap that followed. It showed more of the previous owners, both enthusiasts, than the 367k km on the clock. From what Rob told me, Mr. Pajak was the PO when he'd acquired this beauty. Though I have yet to confirm that tidbit.

    The car came with some choice parts like:

    -- New radiator/expansion tank
    -- New PS pump/pressure hoses and a working/non-leaking brake bomb
    -- 034 trans mounts
    -- Stage 2 Southbend clutch/PP
    -- Front strut tower brace
    -- Bilstein and H&R suspension, factory rear sway bar
    -- quattro script rear window defrost, rear sunshade
    -- heated rear seats
    -- UrS6 interior trim (he didn't like the Elmwood)
    -- ABS/Diff lock buttons, intensive washer sprayers
    -- trip computer
    -- spare hood/grille
    -- Bosectomy, JL Audio mids/tweets
    -- good rubber door trim
    -- hardwired for radar detector
    -- EGT probe ready for VEMS
    -- Deatschwerk DW300 fuel pump & relay
    -- recent fuel filter, trans/diff fluid
    -- Earl's s/s brake hoses
    -- very minimal spot rust


    It didn't, however, come complete. So I rented a garage to do the swap. Uninsulated, un-heated. In the middle of the coldest winter in recent memory. With no washroom. Desperate times = desperate measures lol



    So after working outside for 10h/day, I'd head over to the shop and put in 2-3 hours work until it was completed. Or stay until my beer froze. Then it was obviously time to go home. Garage in the middle between work and home, about a half hour either way.



    Things that needed swapped were:

    -- motor, turbo
    -- motor mounts
    -- POS
    -- ECU
    -- exhaust
    -- front calipers, f/r rotors
    -- wheels/tyres
    -- headlights
    -- steering wheel, column trim
    -- battery
    -- CD player

    I mangled the passenger rear s/s brake hose, and the small offset hard line (90˚-->90˚) nuts on the front calipers were worn out (read: rectangular), so had them replaced by local brake/hydraulic shops along the way.

    Almost immediately after putting the car together (and also moving in the interim), I got a job up north. Had to mobilize quickly. So after countless curses, neck cricks and snapped drill bits later, I gave up on salvaging the stock exhaust. (The old studs were baked in good and had to be sawzall'd off... so plan a) drilling out the bolts, quickly gave way to plan b) new exhaust) There was a decent deal on a slightly dented gen4 Stromung in Chicago with a solenoid operated cutout valve, but when I factored in shipping and wait time it wasn't in the cards. So I went to ABC Muffler and Hitch as recommended by Kenny. Waited around (like 4-5 hours) for them to do it, but they did a pretty decent job, considering. Single 3" cat-less exhaust from the DP back. Mandrel bends at the back. Crush bends off the DP. Went that route to keep costs down. Later, when I upgrade the DP, the crush bends will be replaced with mandrel goodness. Went with an offset-in/centre-out Magnabro. Sounds subdued, yet throaty. I like it; my friends all say it should be louder haha. Exhaust wasn't free at $680, but still only 3/4 price of that Stromung in Chi-town and no shipping/exchange costs.

    My first cruise around after the exhaust I ended up having a good long pull with a dark blue C32 AMG (W203) with at least an exhaust and wheels. I firmly stayed ahead from a roll, up thru the top of 4th gear where I backed off. When we both turned off and hit a red light together, he was impressed... wearing a big smile and thumbs up. So was I; the POS/COP were dying and I was getting misfires. Before I'd traced down the cause, I'd swapped the coolant temp sensor and swapped over the vac lines to silicone for good measure. Eventually, I went with a p'n'p 2.0t harness from Norbitron off Motorgeek and some black TFSI coils sourced locally. All in the COP swap cost about $275. Pretty good deal compared to the usual vendors.




    Randomly found some D2A8 wheels for $200 locally. Which was good. Rob wanted his 17x8" Avus wheels back for his 6-sp C5S6 Avant, bastard. Haha. Had my machinist make up some hub spacers (copied from my H&Rs off the coupe haha), 8mm for the rear and 10mm up front. $80 for both sets. Then some wheel studs and nuts locally for $100 (Thanks Colin). Finally, new 245/40-17 Michelin Pilot Super Sports from tirerack.com, since the local tire shop (KalTire) couldn't get my size before TR could deliver. So $1000 plus ~$250 for mount/balance later, I was ready to rip -ish up.





    Car is pretty well sorted, being (basically) stock.

    Right around this time, my brother (All_Euro) came up north on a weekend and we installed a new Pioneer DEH-X8600BS CD player I'd gotten on sale for ~$200. The parts car's radio was locked, so what the hell, right? That was fun, and I bought some new tools. Unfortunately, ever since, the trip computer, coolant temp gauge and passenger mirror haven't worked at all (used to tilt just fine going into reverse). So that's up on the list. I've since purchased a pair of amps (about $225 total) to run the mids/tweets and two (OLD) 10" Phoenix Gold subs I have. Just need to build a box to fit in the trunk first. Then I'll dig into everything again. Hopefully figure out why the 12v outlets/lighters don't work in the mean time... it'd be nice to be able to charge my phone.

    Also picked up a set of headlights with euro lenses, clear corners and 55w HIDs from Rob for good measure.


    Couldn't get the HIDs to fire, thinking ground issue. Know they ought to work, since they are relayed and worked fine for Rob when he had the car. Just have to figure out where to best ground it all out first. Running the old halogens with the clear corners for now.


    After that, I clayed and waxed the exterior. Then restored the rubber exterior trim to look new with Turtle Wax trim stuff, went with it because it was pigmented vs. the other kinds.


    After three generous coats...



    Next up was the leather. Did a lot of reading online, and chose Leatherique, largely due to the guys on S2Forum who call it "leather food," and the before/after results I'd seen on the autopia.com forum. It's originally conceived as a saddle cleaner, and is water based vs. petroleum distillates.







    In the meantime, I've been fussing about with the steering column trim and a sport wheel. Just need to pick up my purse and hack into the hub so the clock spring works. Or maybe I'll just use the UrS6 wheel in the Cq, and my non-airbag S2 wheel in the UrS. haha



    Finally, can't complete this post without saying thanks to those who really helped out and stepped up to the plate when I needed a hand on this (impromptu) project. In no order obviously! Thank you (x-eleventy billion) to Rob, Kenny, Colin, Monty, Lars, Sterling, Ian, Wayne, Adam and Tyson for all the help when I was in need. I know you're all busy with your lives and the last thing any sane person wants to do is pull wrenches or diagnose issues in a garage colder inside than the weather is outside. During a freakishly cold Canadian winter.
    Last edited by PRY4SNO; 02-19-2015, 02:49 PM. Reason: nanny state... sh!t is a bad word LOL
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    Indigo Pearl Effect 1992 80q 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
    Brilliant Black 1990 Coupe quattro /// Because Racecar

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    Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

    For reference:

    Outstanding maintenance:
    -- Timing belt/wp service (due 375k km... ish)
    -- Valve cover gasket and spark plugs
    -- auto check
    -- coolant temp gauge
    -- passenger mirror
    -- lube door hinges/catches
    -- install carbon trim
    -- find ground fault in stereo (IE. alternator whine)
    -- steering column trim
    -- radio adapter to CD player, USB --> armrest
    -- MFTS connector on harness side
    -- cruise control

    Mods Planned:
    -- Ecodes/HIDs
    -- UrS6 sport steering wheel conversion
    -- Sub box w/ two 10" subs, amplifiers
    -- boost gauge
    -- glass sunroof swap
    -- black headliner & trim
    -- roof rack
    -- Boost/coolant hoses
    -- HPR/Apikol mounts
    -- 6sp 01E, Southbend stage2 clutch/PP
    -- 986/C2 caliipers & A8 rotors
    -- catch can
    -- IMS billet k26, GenesisII 500cc injectors, EFI-Express/PRJ Motronic tune
    -- 3" downpipe w/ EGT bung
    -- Aquamist w/m injection
    -- FMIC
    -- Euro Bumpers
    -- UrS6 tail lights
    -- Respray
    Find me on Instagram @pry4sno

    Candy White 2010 VW Golf Sportwagen TDI 6 speed /// #farmenwagen
    Indigo Pearl Effect 1992 80q 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
    Brilliant Black 1990 Coupe quattro /// Because Racecar

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      Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

      Amazing progress and nice to see the older Audis still getting a lot of love!!!
      Blair
      Former Cars: '12 Fiat 500, '10 VW GTI, '05 Smart Fortwo, '96 VW Jetta GLX, '02 VW GTI 337.........

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      • #4
        Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

        Thanks Blair. Mostly just plan to keep her running well but if/when something needs maintained, it'll get upgraded.

        Do you have any advice for shipping bumpers from the UK? I'm looking at some euro bumpers in Dorchester but the guy is having a hard time figuring out how to FedEx lol
        Find me on Instagram @pry4sno

        Candy White 2010 VW Golf Sportwagen TDI 6 speed /// #farmenwagen
        Indigo Pearl Effect 1992 80q 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
        Brilliant Black 1990 Coupe quattro /// Because Racecar

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        • #5
          Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

          Originally posted by PRY4SNO View Post
          Thanks Blair. Mostly just plan to keep her running well but if/when something needs maintained, it'll get upgraded.

          Do you have any advice for shipping bumpers from the UK? I'm looking at some euro bumpers in Dorchester but the guy is having a hard time figuring out how to FedEx lol
          I unfortunately do not have much experience shipping anything that large, I have only used Royal Mail/Parcelforce and it gets pricey once the weight gets up but I think FedEx would be an option or perhaps might want to look at going with a freight company.
          Blair
          Former Cars: '12 Fiat 500, '10 VW GTI, '05 Smart Fortwo, '96 VW Jetta GLX, '02 VW GTI 337.........

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          • #6
            Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

            lets get some sad updates dustin?
            Last edited by morris400; 02-06-2015, 01:05 PM.
            2016 VW GTI (Stock)
            2016 VW Jetta 1.4T (Stock)
            1994 Audi UrS4 - BW S257 SX-E built engine on VEMs.
            2001 Audi S4 - K04s, J-Fonz Tuned ( Gone! Dropped valve)

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            • #7
              Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

              Spoiler Alert - that detailing work is going to have to be redone... things are usually faster the second time around at least
              Work - houzz / linkedin
              Play - haldex swap

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              • #8
                Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

                Annnnnnnd we're done here.



                Was sent home early from yesterday work on account of the nasty snowstorm. Was going well below the limit (70-80 km/h in a 100 zone), keeping my distance behind the traffic in front of me. The blowing snow was so bad it was a white out when someone would pass by or you'd get too close to the vehicle ahead. Could barely see the lanes, or where the ditch began.

                As far as I remember it, I went into a small dip in the road and the lady must not have seen me, or my brights, or my fogs, and proceeded to turn left. Smack dab into the front left fender of my car as I was going along at about 80km. I didn't even see her.

                I figure that was a saving grace; as I didn't have time to react or go tense, and was relaxed at the moment of impact.

                The safety officer from work was minutes behind me. She took the following pictures and texted them to me later that evening. She figured my legs were broke or pinned by the dash, but I popped out and walked over to the lady who hit me to check on her condition. Before long I was being taken to the University hospital by way of ambulance and she walked off... to the back of a cruiser I'd assume/hope.

                A busted nose/torn septum, dogs-breakfast for a lower lip and 40 some stitches later, I was happy to have come out relatively unscathed. Save for some bruising/pain on my left elbow, right ankle and neck... I count my blessings and appreciate my luck.

                These cars are solid, gentleman.

                See here the results, and always remember to wear your seatbelt!!!






                Find me on Instagram @pry4sno

                Candy White 2010 VW Golf Sportwagen TDI 6 speed /// #farmenwagen
                Indigo Pearl Effect 1992 80q 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
                Brilliant Black 1990 Coupe quattro /// Because Racecar

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                • #9
                  Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

                  ****, happy that you are alright, but so much hard work in the shitter
                  I may appear to be nice, but don't be fooled, I probably don't like you

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                  • #10
                    Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

                    Holy f*ck. Glad you are ok, i'd be extremely shaken up after something like that

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                    • #11
                      Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

                      Originally posted by Mantis View Post
                      ****, happy that you are alright, but so much hard work in the shitter
                      Well put Ryan, and thanks. But she was a solid runner and I have faith in being able to find another. Just an avant next time...

                      Originally posted by MechEngg View Post
                      Holy f*ck. Glad you are ok, i'd be extremely shaken up after something like that
                      Thanks for your concern. For the most part I'm alright.

                      Funny thing is I didn't have time. She came out of nowhere and I didn't know I'd been hit until I dialled in after the fact. If I'd have seen her coming (and not been able to drop a gear or two while hitting the brakes and steering away...) odds are I'd have been tense as all Hell and made things worse.

                      Afterwards, well... no point dwelling. Time to move on and get something better!

                      I see a URS avant in my future
                      Find me on Instagram @pry4sno

                      Candy White 2010 VW Golf Sportwagen TDI 6 speed /// #farmenwagen
                      Indigo Pearl Effect 1992 80q 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
                      Brilliant Black 1990 Coupe quattro /// Because Racecar

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                      • #12
                        Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

                        Aside from being bruised and battered - at least you didn't just install a turbo kit or do even more work to the car... hopefully the insurance end goes well.
                        Work - houzz / linkedin
                        Play - haldex swap

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                        • #13
                          Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

                          Originally posted by All_Euro View Post
                          Aside from being bruised and battered - at least you didn't just install a turbo kit or do even more work to the car... hopefully the insurance end goes well.
                          I know, right?

                          Her insurance company will lowball me, then go to kijiji for comparable cars I'm sure. Sucks that these are rather rare animals with climbing mileage and fading values. I'll have a few clauses to whip out as I deem appropriate to ensure a fair replacement value is obtained.
                          Find me on Instagram @pry4sno

                          Candy White 2010 VW Golf Sportwagen TDI 6 speed /// #farmenwagen
                          Indigo Pearl Effect 1992 80q 20v /// Eventual AAN'd Winter Sled
                          Brilliant Black 1990 Coupe quattro /// Because Racecar

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                          • #14
                            Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

                            Wow Dustin! Glad you are relatively OK. Good thing you were in the UrS4 would have been a lot worse in a lesser sled. Hope you heal and find an avant.

                            I didn't put 2 and 2 together that Monty is you brother and that we had met. How many bright red mk4 jetta's can there be?
                            Last edited by bobkatkat; 02-06-2015, 10:21 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Re: URS4LA -- '92.5 UrS4 Daily Driver/Winter Beater

                              WOW! Glad to hear you are alright. And you've got a pretty great attitude / perspective about it all, man. Wishing you a speedy recovery of the injuries you did sustain.
                              2008 Audi RS4
                              2015 Fiat 500 Abarth

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