X-drive? Whatever...What way to start a day.

[Deuce]

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deuce you'll be fine on 225s.. you just need to get used to them..

Oh... I'm used to them alright (ie. 2nd winter on the 225/40R18's). Unfortunately, I don't think my neighbours are used to a flapper-modded .:R screaming sideways down their lonely neighborhood streets as I enjoy some fresh powder on my early morning Tim's run!

My second favourite is racing Ford, Dodge and Chevy 4x4's from street light to street light on whatever road I happen across. They've got nothin' on this little 4-Motion!

[popp]

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insurance doesnt like to loose, his rates will go up, it's a claim...
I'm not entirely sure on this but I think if you hit a deer then insurance rates dont go up, but i've never filled a claim like this (hitting a tree/slippery road) so I may be wrong

The wife took the Vue swimming during that freak rain storm 2 years ago and flooded the engine with water logged it.........long story short, Insurance took care of entire $12,000 new engine bill as a "act of nature" and we didn't pay a penny, not even deductible and rates have never gone up since. (in fact they came down 6 months later.)

[Pshrynk]

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I actually run winter tires that are the same width as my summers -- 235-40-18's

Really when it comes down to it, the weather in Calgary usually has weeks and weeks of no snow/dry roads in the winter and then when you add in the chinooks -- it's nice to have wide sticky tires all year round.

[onepointeightdub]

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deuce you'll be fine on 225s.. you just need to get used to them..

Im on 225 last season and this season..

[R_Ethug]

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deuce you'll be fine on 225s.. you just need to get used to them..

[Deuce]

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I was being facetious

Thank you Captain Science.

[Pshrynk]

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I was being facetious

Thank you Captain Science.

[p951]

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Did you really just say that?

Actually he's right. Ice isn't that slippery, compared to the film of water that forms on top of it. Think ice skates versus just walking on ice in winter boots. Same ice, but since the skates focus the pressure on a tiny part, causing the ice to melt and the metal to glide on the film of water, versus your boot which would spread the pressure out, and allow the water to escape into the small voids in the tread (the sipes).

Did you ever notice that you have a LOT more grip on ice when it's really cold out versus just around zero?

Just basic physics.

[Pshrynk]

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Ice is not that slippery.

Did you really just say that?

[Deuce]

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I can't imagine trying to drive on 225's in the winter

[Khyron]

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what i was trying to say is that because winter tyres tend to be narrower for digging into the snow for optimal traction this actually has a negative effect on handling on ice compared to a wider tyre of the same build, ultimately on ice traction is postively related to surface area.

While it might seem logical it's incorrect. Ice is not that slippery. The thin film of water that forms on top is what causes the loss of traction. The friction of the tire creates heat which melts a thin layer causing it to be slippery. This is why the key feature on winter tires is sips and tread grooves to move water away to get at the rougher surface below. Think of it as many microscopic hydroplanes. You can see this by driving on a bald winter tire - even with the better compound, it's still no where near as effective as a newly treaded tire.

A wider tire has the same flaws as you would expect a wider tire to have in a pool of water. It also gets hotter near the center as opposed to the outer edges so narrower means cooler.

[JLam]

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what i was trying to say is that because winter tyres tend to be narrower for digging into the snow for optimal traction this actually has a negative effect on handling on ice compared to a wider tyre of the same build, ultimately on ice traction is postively related to surface area.

[P Arkus]

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and you have never hit a snow bank or a ditch if not your the man

I consider myself the man. Sure sh!t happens to everyone, the difference is how smart you are about it. I hit a curb just the other day sliding down a hill (sliding very slowly). Only difference is I was smart/skilled enough to hit the curb on a controlled angle so I wouldnt do any damage to the car. How many idiots would panic and just let it slide into the car in front of them???

[Red90]

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and you have never hit a snow bank or a ditch if not your the man

Sure, in a beater....just not in a "it'll cost $10 k to fix the fender" car.....

My 19 year old son drove his car into a curb the other week, on dry pavement, collapsing the front suspension. He's riding the bus now.

[big shane]

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and you have never hit a snow bank or a ditch if not your the man