Diesel trucks

[boostedmk4]

Re: Diesel trucks

Good choice!

[DonDavis]

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Ended up going with a 2004 Dodge 2500 with the 5.9 liter turbo diesel.
177xxx kms on it, pretty stoked!

[Tuna]

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What'd you get?

[DonDavis]

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Found something, hopefully picking it up today.

Thanks again for all the help! This place is definitely a good source for a wide variety of information.

[DonDavis]

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I'm about to list my 2004 f150, 172k km, it's the fx4 body crew cab so painted bumpers with leather interior. Newer tires and new windshield I'm selling because I'm buying a new truck for the wife to drive when the kid or kids come in November, and I'm selling her car and my truck. I only had it a year and I love it but I want something newer for her to drive.

Thanks for the offer but an F-150 is definitely not big enough for what I need. Good luck with the sale!





Thanks again for all the input guys. Really helpful!
I got a couple trucks I am looking at this week so we will see what happens.

Cheers!

[danno]

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I'm about to list my 2004 f150, 172k km, it's the fx4 body crew cab so painted bumpers with leather interior. Newer tires and new windshield I'm selling because I'm buying a new truck for the wife to drive when the kid or kids come in November, and I'm selling her car and my truck. I only had it a year and I love it but I want something newer for her to drive.

[bonfire]

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My 2 cents, which aren't worth much as my info is based off current model year trucks.

Been in the field the past 2 weeks with work. We have had a Dodge 3500 Diesel, a GMC 2500 Diesel, and a F350 Super Duty Gas.

The gas truck is a joke, I absolutely hate it, hauling any weight, trying to pass, hills, the motor is just constantly revving around, downshifting, upshifting, doing a whole of nothing.

The ride in the GMC was my favorite, is was maybe a touch rougher than the Ford, but felt more planted and was much nicer in the snow and heavy slush. Big fan of the diesel, never a moment when I wished I had more power, and it was always ready. If I matted it, it just went faster. No hunting for gears, just went faster, and it went there surprisingly quickly.

The Dodge was pretty awesome, the interior layout was nice, but it had the roughest ride, and the motor in that was awesome. Plus it has that super awesome exhaust brake, and really that sound alone made the rougher ride worth it. Also it felt like the GM, is didn't give a **** what was in front of it, it was just going there.

The F350 was the best in the mud, but only because it had the FX4 package with the locking rear diff.

[Tuna]

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I'll add a a bit more. Can't comment on the extra budget because I never really looked in that price range but might get a little better. What kind of trailer? A 22 car trailer with cargo is a lot heavier than a 22 foot holiday or boat trailer. If it's just a holiday trailer you probably don't even need 3/4 ton, if it's ~4000-6000 a 1/2 ton or even several SUV's could pull it.

As for pulling, I've pulled with both Diesel and gas. Gas will do fine as long as you aren't close to the limit of the vehicles tow rating. But the Diesel will make a joke of it no matter what. When not towing though the gas is nicer.

[DonDavis]

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Hmm, thanks for all the info and input! Really appreciate all the opinions and experiences too.

As for getting a gas engine, I don't really have a problem with that but it is my understanding that diesels just make better towing machines.
If I were to increase my budget to 16k-ish would that make a big difference? Obviously there are more trucks available in that range but would the 4k increase make a big difference in quality/reliability/etc?

Some extra information:
Probably looking at towing something like a 22 foot trailer, not right away but within a year or two.
The interior does not really matter to me to be honest. I will be sitting in this thing in a wetsuit with three other people, haha.
Also, the truck will only be getting around 10,000kms a year on it. Much of the kms would be highway commuting from here to Sylvan and other lakes.
It will be used in summer and fall months (May - November).
This truck will not be for personal use.

[mk4jetta]

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I'm going to say don't buy a ford diesel, every diesel tech at work constantly has one with an engine out or a cab off.

[idlandk]

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Have to echo this from my research. The ford 6.0 has some issues, I don't think the headgaskets fail directly but rather it's a function of the EGR cooling system getting plugged up and overheating which then causes the engine to run too hot. The 6.4 was arguably worse, plus had horrible fuel economy plus only had a 5 speed where the GM's had the 6sp Allison. I do have a friend that has a 6.0L and his has been ok, I think he's got about 160,000 on it now. I really wanted a 6.4 but my neighbor had a 2010 that got less than 450kms to a tank with mostly highway.

As for Dodge, 2 of the 3 people I knew with them had rear end issues, also, one of them had steering box issues also (quite expensive to replace). Also, you'll actually find that it's not too difficult to find manual Dodges as the transmissions were well known for not being reliable. I would still consider one if you find a really good deal on an 04ish one as that was pre emissions stuff. I didn't look too much at engine options as I was scared of them.

The Pre-07 GM's had horrible interiors, so ugly, after that they are much improved. The engines were solid though.

This info is largely for 04-10 trucks as that was what I was looking at, also, all diesels.

That said, for your budget you may want to consider a gas engine, higher mileage diesels are expensive to maintain. They warm up better, can just jump in and take off and shouldn't be too much harder on fuel. GM uses the same 6L in the 3/4 ton that you'll find in the Yukon and other trucks.

Hope that helps some.

This guy knows what he's talking about. For 12k don't buy a wore out diesel

In response To boosted... I simply don't believe that. Everyone I know with a dodge truck can't keep it out of the shop and said they would never own another dodge. You get what you pay for and dodges are cheap. I'm not saying the engine is no good but i disagree with Your comment on v8 diesels. Power output Is pretty much the same and Fuel economy is better with the v8 ford and chev. I'm not saying the v8 diesels are better either.

[btimbit]

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Cummins are really good engines, but I dislike almost every other part of the Dodge. Most Chrysler products, for that matter. Interior being the biggest culprit.

[Tuna]

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6.0l powerstrokes have headgasket problems and it's a very expensive repair. Cummins are good engines but dodge rear ends, transmission, steering boxes and pretty much the rest of the truck sucks. Gm's have good tranny's and my dad has had multiple duramax's up to 500000km and only real problem with the engine was injectors. IMO gm/chev has the best setup and they drive the best hands down(can't deny that). Although I don't know how much of a truck 12k will get you. Good luck! Your better off to read up on each of them and drive each of them

Have to echo this from my research. The ford 6.0 has some issues, I don't think the headgaskets fail directly but rather it's a function of the EGR cooling system getting plugged up and overheating which then causes the engine to run too hot. The 6.4 was arguably worse, plus had horrible fuel economy plus only had a 5 speed where the GM's had the 6sp Allison. I do have a friend that has a 6.0L and his has been ok, I think he's got about 160,000 on it now. I really wanted a 6.4 but my neighbor had a 2010 that got less than 450kms to a tank with mostly highway.

As for Dodge, 2 of the 3 people I knew with them had rear end issues, also, one of them had steering box issues also (quite expensive to replace). Also, you'll actually find that it's not too difficult to find manual Dodges as the transmissions were well known for not being reliable. I would still consider one if you find a really good deal on an 04ish one as that was pre emissions stuff. I didn't look too much at engine options as I was scared of them.

The Pre-07 GM's had horrible interiors, so ugly, after that they are much improved. The engines were solid though.

This info is largely for 04-10 trucks as that was what I was looking at, also, all diesels.

That said, for your budget you may want to consider a gas engine, higher mileage diesels are expensive to maintain. They warm up better, can just jump in and take off and shouldn't be too much harder on fuel. GM uses the same 6L in the 3/4 ton that you'll find in the Yukon and other trucks.

Hope that helps some.

[onceover]

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Disagree. Haven't had any issues with our F350.

No to mention that everything except for the engine is total garbage on dodges, interior is awful IMO.

[boostedmk4]

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Power stroke diesels are the biggest piece of **** ever. Weather it's a new one or old one they are junk a d hold there value worst than a kia
Dodge ram with a cummins is 100% the way to go.
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Ps I have no idea where this myth of dodge rear ends and trannys comes from. My wife worked for Chrysler in service for many years and never saw a dodge have tranny issues or rear end issues other than stupid people not maintaining their trucks.

And diesel engines should not be a v8? Who the **** thought of that? What semi truck has a v8 diesel. Think of it that way