Drill Attached Buffer?

[CGDoig]

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JVD was right. I hand polished the hood, fak me. it's one of the most ridiculous things to do. Waxing afterwards felt like a vacation for my arm. Needless to say its the only thing getting polished. On a side note, it turned out so much better. Cleaned up the oxidized parts really well, if I had scratch or swirl repair I'm sure it would be perfect but I don't have time for that.

[JVD]

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I'm already home. Gonna have to Armstrong it for now I think anyways. Oh the joys!

Clay and wax is probably as good as it's going to get without a machine.

Even polishing with a machine takes up a good chunk of a day to do properly. I can't imagine doing it(trying) by hand.

[onceover]

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Hmm gonna have to say polishing, and waxing...

I detect sarcasm. It was a serious question.

Polishing you want foam, waxing you want microfibre. Google is also a good resource for stuff like this

[CGDoig]

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I'm already home. Gonna have to Armstrong it for now I think anyways. Oh the joys!

[Danaldson]

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Depends what you're doing...

Hmm gonna have to say polishing, and waxing...

[CGDoig]

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Yeah the meguires drill attachment is not a spinning one. Its semi orbital too. It goes side to side as well as spinning.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en

[onceover]

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Depends what you're doing...

[Danaldson]

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i used one of those little orbitals on my car this summer, and i think it worked great. now the question is? foam or micro fibre pads?

[Kor]

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For sure a cheap orbital buffer can cause swirls and DA is better - that's why I upgraded to DA too.

But it doesn't mean orbital will always cause swirls. If you are using a completely clean microfiber cloth bonnet on completely clean paint, and only using the buffer for the fine/finishing stage I have never had a problem with swirls even on a black car with the cheap orbital buffer.

That does not mean I would use a drill attachment though, that is not cool, it will just not give you enough control and you will probably end up making a mess.

I think the swirls come in when the car or bonnet is not 100% clean or people are using it with coarse abrasive polish products, or cheap bonnets... then it causes that swirl pattern. If you don't have a DA polisher you can't use a polish with those kinds of abrasives... stick to finishing products.

Look for labels with words like "machine glaze" or "light" "haze remover" "swirl remover". NEVER use a polish that has a label like "cutting" "medium duty" "heavy duty" "scrach remover" "auto body shop" etc with a cheap polisher.

[RONDAL]

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those deep swirls are from people using buffers and using them improperly. too much heat can cause issues in the paint which give you some really nasty hologram effect and deep swirl like marks.
you can do a lot of damage with power tools if you use them improperly.

[P Arkus]

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Good to know. Thanks for the link Pat!

[Bucky]

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Question that is sort of related...
What causes the permanent swirls and holography looking effects you sometimes see in cars, especially black ones? I assume it is something to do with improper polishing. I'm always worried I will cause this but really don't know what one does to make it happen!

Swirls can most often be caused by improper washing, as stated earlier. Like CGDoing said, the two bucket method is key. Another way swirls are caused, is by improper drying of the car. Any missed dirt can scratch the clear coat. Using a waffle weave or damp microfiber towel, lifts the dirt away and can cause less swirls. Chamois are dragged along the surface, so anything caught under that while drying will scratch . DA(Dual action) polisher like Porter cable 7424xp or rupes are popular options. Depends on how bad the swirls are and the hardness/softness of the paint. Different stages of cutting pads to slowly bring the paint back to perfect can be achieved with some time and effort. The drill method is good for smaller areas and use 4" pads. It's typically used for deeper scratches that a dual action polisher can't remove.

[onceover]

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Negatory: http://www.autogeek.net/dual-action-polisher.html

[P Arkus]

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Dual action buffers are the ones that just go back and forth spinning (about 30 degrees one way, then back) right?

[onceover]

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Even the pros use Dual Action. Rotary polishers are only for serious paint correction