Traction Control Disable

[BaggedGLI]

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TC has its pros and cons. I do find it annoying when taking a corner in the snow. It lowers the power, I find I have less control of the car where as I have better control with it off.
For me, traction control is more of a guide on the road surface. As soon as the TC light flickers on/off I adjust my driving style(i.e ease off power, adjust gears, feel the car through the clutch etc).


On a secondary note, once summer I was giving a friend a lift home. I switched off the TC and she started to panic....

Did you tell her this is the most fun you could have with both of your clothes on?

[Wildfire]

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TC has its pros and cons. I do find it annoying when taking a corner in the snow. It lowers the power, I find I have less control of the car where as I have better control with it off.
For me, traction control is more of a guide on the road surface. As soon as the TC light flickers on/off I adjust my driving style(i.e ease off power, adjust gears, feel the car through the clutch etc).


On a secondary note, once summer I was giving a friend a lift home. I switched off the TC and she started to panic....

[BaggedGLI]

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Yup

Oh yeah!

[Circuits]

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.....Can you get the back end out?

Yup

[All_Euro]

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Nice. The reason I ask is because I've never owned a haldex ride but am thinking of putting one in my GLI in about a year. The other option is to get an S4 but I really like the idea of a fully customized sleeper... just wasn't sure how the 4motion handles/feels. I'll put a HPA Gen1-competition controller in it if I go for it. Can you get the back end out?

[BaggedGLI]

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That's a smart option too. Is your Passat 4motion / how do you like it?

Yeah it is 4motion, it's a ton of fun, the only time i've ever got it stuck was when I rammed it into a 4 foot snowdrift and the front wheels lifted off the ground. Other then that with the winters on there the things a tank, I've been out in the snow when most wouldn't venture in a truck, and it just goes.

Ask any of the r32 guys, you'll probably hear the same.

[stefan]

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A little bit of driving skill, goes such a long ways. Relying upon a Computer to react for you, I believe is stupid.

I believe the point is that it will help when you don't have time to react in the best way, or the reaction will put the car off the road, ie: animals, **** flying off trucks on deerfoot, shitty highways that collect water in bad spots, random black ice. It's not intended to play with/push to it's limit. I've swerved enough crap on the highway with no incident, and I've never had anything like this in my car until now, I don't think that's a big feat. That said, I've also crossed over centerline/white line avoiding various living and dead creatures/rocks/barbecues/christmas trees/ice clumps between here and BC, and at that point, any inches that this can save you in lateral movement is a plus. It only really has to work once.

*and no comments about the 2 rocks I didn't swerve, that each busted my oil pan on separate occasions... Brent...

[bonfire]

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I have AWD, with winters. I try my best to get the back end to push out. It just doesn't. I drove the snot out of my Mk1, it slipped, you could lock up wheels at speed slide 100ft, like it was nothing. I never hit anything, never got stuck, never even had a close call. A little bit of driving skill, goes such a long ways. Relying upon a Computer to react for you, I believe is stupid. I like having no driving aids, really allows you to drive the car. Not the other way around, this any Soviet Russia.

We have TC in our RWD FJ, it turns off when you put 4WD. But it drives my dad and I nuts.

You go around a corner, you expect it to break, TC kicks in is doesn't break loose. Next corner same speed, it breaks, TC doesn't come on. It makes no sense.

[All_Euro]

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Look on vortex, there is a vagcom mod to change the default of the traction control to off, so when you start the car, its off, the you press the button to turn it on.

Personally, in the jetta, traction control is ALWAYS off.

The passat....... well it doesn't have traction control.

That's a smart option too. Is your Passat 4motion / how do you like it?

[All_Euro]

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I like my TC in the winter time.

What really grinds my gears however are the people at the stop signs/lights with no traction control on who spin their wheels through the whole intersection and just polish the ice, thinking that they are moving quicker because they are spinning their wheels.

x10, that's one of the best things that TC does for the masses!

[BaggedGLI]

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Look on vortex, there is a vagcom mod to change the default of the traction control to off, so when you start the car, its off, the you press the button to turn it on.

Personally, in the jetta, traction control is ALWAYS off.

The passat....... well it doesn't have traction control.

[MechEngg]

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I like my TC in the winter time.

What really grinds my gears however are the people at the stop signs/lights with no traction control on who spin their wheels through the whole intersection and just polish the ice, thinking that they are moving quicker because they are spinning their wheels.

Its simple physics, the coefficient of static friction is ALWAYS greater than the coefficient of kinetic friction. This means you get more grip by not spinning your tires.

[All_Euro]

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It's good to see people being passionate about safety & I'm the same way. I'm happy that cars have TC... just wish mine would respond better... or be customizable.

My driving background is with non TC vehicles on back roads and roads that aren't proper roads at all; and you need to have a really good feel for what's happening. With the TC on in my mk4... no feel... no traction... no fun.

Just an option for those who want it

BTW, who can I call to pull me out of the ditch if neeed be

[MusicalGenius]

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They have it for a reason. It's for your own safety... I wouldn't take it off, only time I take it off is it im stuck or in the summer

http://www.all-about-car-selection.com/ESP.html
An Electronic Stabilization Program is an active safety system that uses the anti-lock brake and traction control sensors amongst others, to detect if a vehicle is sliding out of control. It 'reads' the road and senses if you're in trouble.
Most automotive manufacturers have a system similar to ESP, although they may call it something else. General Motors calls their system Stabilitrak.
Nissan and Infiniti call their system VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control). All of these systems are stability systems. ESP is the most widely used term as it pioneered this technology.

How it works

Sensors monitor vehicle yaw rate (rotational movement of the car), speed, throttle input, steering wheel angle and others to determine if the vehicle is heading in its intended direction.
If, for example, you are turning a corner and encounter oversteer (rear wheels are sliding), the sensors will reduce engine power, and apply the brake to the front outside tire.
In this situation the front outside tire is being used as a 'pivot point' in which to get the car back on it's intended course. As you can see, a stability system can apply the brake to just one wheel, and/or reduce engine output. This will keep the vehicle headed in the right direction.

A stability system works with the traction control system but unlike traction control, it monitors lateral vehicle movement in addition to longitudinal movements.
Stability systems are well worth the money. They can dramatically enhance the safety of a vehicle. They can keep the vehicle on course and provide a safety net for a driver should something go wrong.
ESP can significantly reduce oversteer and understeer.
However, these systems are still subject to the laws of physics. If you take a corner way too fast or do some thing very reckless, a stability management system will not be able to rectify the situation.

Very well stated, I only turn it off late at night in summer when I want to drive back roads.

[Stonewall]

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