Question for you detailing gurus......

[R_Ethug]

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my only complaint with hand waxing is all the buffing wears my arms out all to hell although the end results always make me smile

[Mr. Burns]

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power polishers won't do you any good unless you know how to use them properly. the best bet for most of the people here is definitely an orbital.

[R_Ethug]

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orbital are the ones that spin and go at and angle and wobbly right? i read something a long time ago about those and it said if you have just one that spins flat and you don't know what your doing you can destroy your paint but if you have the wobbly one it'll balance it out or something along those lines

[Derick]

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Wow!

I have a couple concerns though.

1. Do you find that it has created more swirls?
2. Does it cost a lot to buy lots of those buffer-pads for the buffer?
3. Is yours adjustable-speed?

If I can do glaze+wax in < 1 hour I will be doing it every weekend!

Nah Kris, Not at all. As long as you use the right pads, have an absolutely clean paint surface, and work the polisher correctly, then you wont get any swirls (I think this also sort of addresses what Ryan was saying). The buffer pads are not expensive at all (around $5 for a pair) and can be reused and washed when needed. I've been using these for two years now and have only went to buy replacement pads once. The random orbital I have is pressure sensitive on the trigger, so the more you push it in the faster it goes.

[Flanders]

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No doubt Zaino is the shiznit. BUT if you went to the Zaino web site an saw the steps and products invloved to properly use the system, it's not worth it to me. I'm way too busy to be waiting for acrylic polymers to cure and what not. Their stuff is also ridiculously expensive. Like I said, I chose this system for my own personal needs. But having said that, you're right, I've seen Zaino first hand as well and it looks amazing.

I disagree

There are a lot of words describing how to do it on the website, but it's very very easy.

Once you do it the first time (it might take all of a minute to read how to squirt the polish onto the applicator pad) it's common sense after that. Plus, it goes on sooooooo easy. And price-wise, I don't believe it is much more expensive than anything else. Sure it might be a buck more for a bottle of polish, but it probably just seems expensive because you're buying 10 things at once (instead of the one bottle 'o polish you grab each visit at Cdn tire )

[Kor]

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You also do not need to buy all of the Zaino products - they just want you to buy them all to make more money. Also supposedly the Zaino finish has been independantly tested to last longer, for more washes. So even if you pay more you can just do it less frequently.

The main problem is that you have to order it. What a pain. They should get their stuff into Crappy Tire, then it would be all good.

[Derick]

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My biggest issue with the Zaino stuff is that it is acrylic based, and therefore, requires time to cure between coats. Depending on atmospheric conditions, this can be a while. Some detailers I've talked to have told me that it can take up to a full 24hrs to properly cure between coats. This is a major reason most detailing shops don't use it. I guess for concours cars that are worth tons of money, parked in garages, and trailered to shows, this isn't a big probelm. Hell, If I owned a Porsche I wouldn't mind spending an entire weekend laying coats of wax on it either.

[Kor]

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They have some kind of new "Flash Cure" product that supposedly solves this problem. Don't know anyone who has used it though.

[Derick]

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They have some kind of new "Flash Cure" product that supposedly solves this problem. Don't know anyone who has used it though.

At $30 bucks a pop though? Yikes.

[Flanders]

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yep, it's the ZFX additive. Very expensive, but well worth it. It's a little wee vial, but you only use a couple drops of the additive and it reduces drying time to 30-45 minutes. I think it's great!

[Kor]

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We may need to do a wax showdown this summer.

[R_Ethug]

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yea that would be good.. then we can mass order the best stuff and split it up

[Derick]

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We may need to do a wax showdown this summer.

Hahaha, Sounds good I'll be putting the Einszett on next weekend. So I guess me an Kris will be the first showdown, Einszett vs. Meguires

The most rock chips don't count though

[Kor]

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The only way to do a fair showdown is to do half your hood with one product line and the other half with another product line.

[Derick]

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*** Update ***

Well, I just recieved my Einszett order today and I have to say I'm really impressed. Both with how well the products work, and with the service at Detailersparadise.com. The products arrived in a week from the time I placed my order over the phone. They were all packaged perfectly. And the guys at detailers paradise even shipped it for $5 cuz I helped them clarify their web site policies for Canadian customers The best part is I got a huge supply of all the detailing products I need for just over a hundred bucks

Here's everything that came today......



I couldn't help myself and tried the Einszett Glanz Wax on the front quarter panel. This stuff is unlike any other wax I've used. It is the consistency of water and applies and cures in literally less than 30 seconds! Since it is not a creamy wax, it applies effortlessly, removal is a joke, and it does not leave buildup or white residue. I took a picture with forced flash to bring out all the blemishes in the paint. It really forces the chips in the hood to "show up" and makes it look much more harsh than any other lighting the car would normally be in (Also some of the spots are from dirt on the camera lens )....

Here's the quarter panel less than a minute after applying the wax (fully cured)...



It's impossible to tell from the pic, but after buffing the wax off, the panel is as smooth as glass and reflective as hell (again, ignore the dirt on the lens)...



I'll be doing the complete system on my car as well as Ozzie's Tornado Red Jetta for W.O.W. If anyone is interested in getting Einszett, or other brands for that matter, it's definitely worth checking out detailersparadise.com.