The time has come!

[James]

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I don't really know anything much about the 1.8 engine but I've heard port and polish isn't the way to go, not great power gains

[R-Audi]

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Keep us updated on the port/polish thing, I would like more info on that, (cost and benefits..)

[R_Ethug]

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cedrick you should post your questions on the 1.8T forum on vortex some of those guys are hella smart and will guide your young jedi mind into the darkside of 1.8T tuning..

[Kor]

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Okay,
Well a friend of mine thinks that I should get my car ported and polished, and then throw a custom kit on there. It sounds pretty good from how he explained how porting and polishing worked. . . Im so confused now tho as to what i should do. Im waiting for a call back from CWS tuning, and Diablo Performance in red deer to see what they have to say. So many options!

A common mistake is that people assume the same things work on different engines. A lot of what is important on (for example) a honda engine or turbo project is not important or smart to invest money into on a 1.8T. Even a "professional" shop who turbos cars all the time may steer you very wrong on a project like this if they do not have experience with the car and engine you are bringing them.

I could rant on about the many many options and things you can do to your engine. However, the bottom line is your budget. You want the most bang for your buck, and you want to stay within what is safe for your engine.

Since you already have a turbo car, with very strong internals, I can guarantee you that the best bang for your buck under 300whp is a properly sized turbo and good tuning, nothing else necessary.

If you had more lofty power aspirations, and if you had more money to invest, then I would defnitely make other recomendations.

[R_Ethug]

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i completely agree kris... you should be able to upgrade your turbo on our cars no problem unless you want to put in a GT50 LOL.. the only thing you'll need to do along with a turbo upgrade on our cars is an exhaust system, FMIC (unless you like heatsoak), and possibly a clutch if your car is a few years old if your car is brand new or like a year old i'd personally just drive until it slips then replace it later.. but thats just me.. you can also add a limited slip diff if you want to get the rubber laying a bit better but its not needed.

[Tuna]

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I could rant on about the many many options and things you can do to your engine.

Do it! you know you want to, ok, I want you to.

[Kor]

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Do it! you know you want to, ok, I want you to.

Billy T on Vortex ran 36psi on the stock motor and put down 500whp so I think 20psi and 300whp has a lot of headroom.

If you're really concerned, get some cheap upgraded rods. You can get new rods for the stock pistons for < $500US for 4 and they will be good for 400whp. The rods are probably the weakest link on the stock 1.8T, there is nothing wrong with the stock pistons etc. I am not sure how much it costs for labour to have rods replaced, since most of the engine needs to be taken apart, but maybe you know someone that can help you do it... The only other thing you could do is spend cash on balancing, if you want to rev the engine out a little farther (eg 8,000rpms). On a turbo car it always makes a big difference if you can rev further. This will not be cheap, and you had better do it before buying your turbo, or your turbo will be too small.

The other thing is, people who blow up their engines are generally the idiots who screw up and "accidentally" run 30psi because they didn't connect their wastegate line properly, or are using a $10 manual boost controller made from aluminum foil, rubber bands and bolts from home depot. If you buy good quality stuff and install it properly, you should have a lot less to worry about.

Lastly, back on the port and polish thing. You could buy a large-port AEB engine head, and it would have greater airflow in stock form than porting your stock head in an extreme way. And would cost less. So it really makes no sense. But even with the AEB head AND porting it you will see only minimal gains. I am almost certain the person that told you to get a port/polish drives a naturally aspirated honda.

[Cedrick]

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The person that told me this runs a Supercharged focus, it was originally N/A tho. I can see what you mean tho when you say that what works on one engine may not work on another. Hmm . . . Ill have to look further into this matter, I think Ill take your advice Ryan and post a bit on Vortex to see what they have to say.

Im probably meeting with Ken from C1 for more information on the kits they provide and so i can run some questions off him. Cam from lightspeed innovations never called me back, so I'll try him again tommorow to see what they all have to say. Man this is getting complicated, I wish someone would just be like "Do that" and it was done. . . but I guess that would take all the fun out of it

[Cedrick]

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question, do our club discounts cover turbo kits and labor aswell?

[Stonewall]

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question, do our club discounts cover turbo kits and labor aswell?

I don't think so, so bring some vasoline...

[R_Ethug]

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indeed

[Kor]

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Yeah no discount on the turbo kits or labour I don't think.

Post up what Ken tells you about prices, labour, time for install, etc if you can!

[Cedrick]

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For sure,

Any questions that you guys can think of that I should ask him would be appreciated cause after reading all afternoon I suddenly feel like a fish out of water.


http://www.vwfixx.com/forums/index.p...0&#entry188668

By the way, that kit looks real tempting as well, anyone know anything about the FBI guys and their Super 60?

[Kor]

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By the way, that kit looks real tempting as well, anyone know anything about the FBI guys and their Super 60?

Yes.

They stole that idea from me.

The Super 60 is like a cheaper GT28RS, except spools up a bit faster and doesnt flow quite as well at the top. But pretty close.

With a Super 60 turbo you can probably get the same results as the APR Stage 3 or better. However, the down-side is that even FBI's kits aren't as complete and well made as the APR kit... you will probably need someone locally to do some fabrication, and will have to mess with software/tuning to get it running.

Price is the main question I would ask Ken Might also want to ask if he will include some free dyno time to get it tested and running properly. Also if the APR software is upgradable or updatable, or if C1 can tune it at all if it doesnt work perfectly "out of the box". And if they guarantee the car will run good after the installation - that is if you have any problems C1 will fix them free. It would suck to have them install the turbo then if your car runs crappy have to pay again. Just in case.

Should also get a labour estimate in hours, in case you want to buy the APR hardware from C1 but get it installed somewhere else...

[Tuna]

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Man Kris, I hope that when the time comes to install your turbo I can help, or stand in the distance and watch.