Well now I just feel dumb

[MrSector9]

Re: Well now I just feel dumb

Also, this was hilarious... Eating rotten ronnies for ~10 years exclusively is probably not a good choice!

Perfect it worked Need a lighter mood on here.

No shame in coming to the realization you have come to, I wouldn't mind trying that M for a little bit but I am sure like you I would feel terrible driving it, I wont even drive my $16,000 beetle year round as I feel terrible about it. I even think the S4 would be overkill for a DD but that might just be jealousy speaking

[Mcrow]

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[ToXicXxX]

Re: Well now I just feel dumb

If I was in your situation, I'd put money down on a house, rent out a portion of it and finish school while living there.

Buy some cheap used car, play with it and move on to the big boy stuff once you are mature enough.

I now own a paid off house, and I also have almost paid the mortgage off on my condo. Would that be considered "big boy" enough for you? Or should I perhaps own a city block to appease you? I don't fully disclose anything because you guys really don't need to know this stuff, but I see that in doing so you tend to assume that I am spending every penny on a car and not looking at my future. I assure you, I had over a month of speaking with advisors/planners weekly wile I waited for a single penny, and that gave me a lot of time to see what I was going to do.

As for the M3, I'd love to keep one, but I do believe this specific one is unsuitable due to rarity/external upkeep. I feel like BMW was able to pressure me into a sale with a lot of pep talk and the reassuring point that "you will never see one like this again", and that did get me stareyed (on a side note, BMW Gallery is quite rude/impolite to potential customers, I have never been treated so poorly at a dealership before). I know some guys even winter drive normal E92 M3's, but the maintenance/fuel economy is bitterly painful (9L of 10W-60 oil every 7000km, 400km per $80 in gas, and M parts are outlandishly expensive). I have also found driving one, that you really never can get to "enjoy" them wile following any road rules (hence you saw me spinning mine up, it was a new toy, I wanted to see it in action). The peppy nature of the engine means you will be going 70 by the time the engine reaches it's 8400rpm redline in 1st gear, and before about 5000RPM it really lacks any power, making it unpleasant for stop/go traffic and merging, people in residential also give you sour looks and shout at you when you downshift to slow down, because it's loud and obnoxious (if you've never heard an E92 downshift, it's a very violent revmatch). In stark contrast, my 335i had a ton of low end torque thanks to the twin small turbos, wile the 3L inline 6 could hold it's own once the boost began to bleed off, making it a very suitable city car, and it was nice and quiet until you laid into it, the fuel economy with my modifications was terrible however. I am more partial to the B8.5 Audi styling over the new F30 BMW styling (something about how the hood arbitrarily ends before the front bumper gets me, and the interiors have just gone downhill), and the N55 single twin-scroll turbo in the newer 335/435 (cheaply built in comparison to the N54 from the early models, least tuning potential), as well as I would prefer quattro for yearly use. The supercharged V6 really peaks my interest because of it's tunability, the glorious whine of the supercharger on a intake, and the quad exhaust really turns my brow, it to me is a low-key car until you get close to it and notice it's subtle accents. The M3 is very "look at me", and I don't really appreciate the attention.

As for the M3, I bought one mainly because of what friends had said (I know a fair few owners who DD them), and because it was dad's dream car. But driving it, I really realize it's a car for someone with a 6 car garage and a private office with a view at work. My dad was a fairly well off man, and I now understand why he never ended up buying one, and instead stuck to BMW Z series. It's unfortunate I couldn't have realized what I know now prior to buying it, but sometimes you have to learn the hard way. I enjoy my cars, and drive them every day, and I would hope that a S4 would be able to mix the practicality of an A4 with the fun factor of the M3, and that I would be excited to drive it every day, as I was with my 335i (the only reason I am getting rid of the 335 is because they are unfortunately very unreliable cars, and I am tired of working on it, especially when I have nowhere to work until things settle). I also like uniformity in vehicles, going from one to the other often leaves me feeling not quite right (as in DD'ing the A4/335 and then hopping in the M for a cruise, you really start to get annoyed at the missing features).

The reason I would rather swap out now instead of later as mentioned is because the less miles/potential damage I incur (frozen paint CAN NOT be repaired, dents/dings/chips are PERMANENT damage and require extensive paintwork to cover) on the M3 means the better the deal Audi cuts me, as well as the M hasn't been wrapped yet, and that saves me a pile that I could invest or spend making the S4 more "mine" (I do love BBS LM rims). I am talking to them tomorrow, I am very firm on a straight across deal, I will not be paying them, and if I have to I will sell the M3 privately, the salesman I had seemed very enthralled to try and work something out for me, and he understands where I stand. I have also told him should we go through with anything I do intend to do some modifications (exhaust, intake, tune, possibly suspension) on the Audi and would like to speak to them about avoiding a TD1 status on the car.

As far as never getting to drive an M3 again, I have an E93 M3 hard top convertible in the family that is open to my use, so if the urge really presents itself there is always a change to go for a quick cruise.

Hopefully that somewhat explains my deal, sorry if that's a long read!

Just to keep everyone quiet about your future plans, invest in a large amount of McDonalds gift cards, This way you will always have food in your belly. I do not expect any commision/payment for preparing this budget for you.

Budget Breakdown:

Breakfast: $5
Lunch: $7.50
Supper(With Desert): $10.00
=
$22.50/Day

22.50x365 = $8212.50

According to window sticker of M ($77010.15)

77010.15 / 8212.50 = 9.38 Years of meals at Mcdonalds. That being said after 9 years of owning the M or another higher end car it will still be worth something....... Depending on what you choose to eat at Mcdonalds every meal for close to 10 years a dump truck may be the best bet for you to buy.

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-heavy-equipme...ationFlag=true


In the end if you want to get another car.... get it, realistically speaking if you are willing to spend these amounts on a car it BETTER damn well be a good daily driver.

Also, this was hilarious... Eating rotten ronnies for ~10 years exclusively is probably not a good choice!

[Ur0Drivr]

Re: Well now I just feel dumb

OK guys. On topic. Thanks.


Sent from my perch atop Mount Olympus

[GingerBeef]

Re: Well now I just feel dumb

Just to keep everyone quiet about your future plans, invest in a large amount of McDonalds gift cards, This way you will always have food in your belly. I do not expect any commision/payment for preparing this budget for you.

Budget Breakdown:

Breakfast: $5
Lunch: $7.50
Supper(With Desert): $10.00
=
$22.50/Day

22.50x365 = $8212.50

According to window sticker of M ($77010.15)

77010.15 / 8212.50 = 9.38 Years of meals at Mcdonalds. That being said after 9 years of owning the M or another higher end car it will still be worth something....... Depending on what you choose to eat at Mcdonalds every meal for close to 10 years a dump truck may be the best bet for you to buy.

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-heavy-equipme...ationFlag=true


In the end if you want to get another car.... get it, realistically speaking if you are willing to spend these amounts on a car it BETTER damn well be a good daily driver.

Hey man... not necessary.

You guys should probably stay on topic. Sure, Kyle did something ridiculous, and he was called out for it. He apologized and recognized all his mistakes. That took alot of humility and some balls. What he did wasn't cool at all but bashing him isn't either. Things like this aren't helping him grow as a person.

Kyle, I myself have no experience with a B8 but im pretty confident in saying its a better daily than an M3

[MrSector9]

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Just to keep everyone quiet about your future plans, invest in a large amount of McDonalds gift cards, This way you will always have food in your belly. I do not expect any commision/payment for preparing this budget for you.

Budget Breakdown:

Breakfast: $5
Lunch: $7.50
Supper(With Desert): $10.00
=
$22.50/Day

22.50x365 = $8212.50

According to window sticker of M ($77010.15)

77010.15 / 8212.50 = 9.38 Years of meals at Mcdonalds. That being said after 9 years of owning the M or another higher end car it will still be worth something....... Depending on what you choose to eat at Mcdonalds every meal for close to 10 years a dump truck may be the best bet for you to buy.

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-heavy-equipme...ationFlag=true


In the end if you want to get another car.... get it, realistically speaking if you are willing to spend these amounts on a car it BETTER damn well be a good daily driver.

[Remedys]

Re: Well now I just feel dumb

If your looking for a great year round car, that is a performance car why not look into a slightly used 911 C4S. Easy to use all year round, half way practical as well.

[GINCH]

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Couldn't agree more!!

[R-Audi]

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If I was in your situation, I'd put money down on a house, rent out a portion of it and finish school while living there.

Buy some cheap used car, play with it and move on to the big boy stuff once you are mature enough.

Some people really have difficulty listening. Leave the guy alone already..

Im surprised he has hung around this long after being 'tattle-taled' on to the police for screwing around in his car. (Unless of course you have never been over the speed limit in your life, then by all means..judge away!)

He doesnt have to explain anything to anyone especially finances..he was simply asking car advice. If you dont have anything to say about a B8 S4, move along.

[sabbySC]

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If I was in your situation, I'd put money down on a house, rent out a portion of it and finish school while living there.

Buy some cheap used car, play with it and move on to the big boy stuff once you are mature enough.

[Mantis]

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Kyle, please understand that you are asking for advice and some have given it (although not how you want it). As someone who has had to work hard to afford the vehicles I drive, it is sometimes difficult to watch someone purchase 3 separate luxury vehicles in less than a month and not give an opinion when we were asked.

Nobody is calling you a dummy, advice was given whether solicited or not, our members have the right to their opinion, Dan only pointed out that openly discussing ones finances on the board is somewhat tacky.

My advice to you, whether you want it or not, is to just chill out for a couple months with regards to making car purchases, if you put very few KM's on your M3 the Royal Oak offer will only be sweetened as the 2014's sit on the lot and the 2015's arrive. No rush at this point, you have a great daily, can still drive the 335 when you need a torque fix, and have the M3 for those super sunny perfect driving days

If I was in your situation looking for a single daily/fun car, I would be buying the S6 instead of the S4, but I think the S6 may not be as "sporty" as you would be looking for. The S4 is a fantastic daily, but stage 2 definitely gives you enough to get into trouble. If you want a DSG the newer B8.5's have most if not all of the gremlins worked out, while the 2010 and some of the 2011 are not so lucky

[Natty54]

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If you have space its always nice to have a few toys.

[MechEngg]

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Perhaps you should think things over before you jump into yet another car. You have jumped from car to car over the past year you have been on here with little thought as to what you like long term. I would say keep what you currently have until you make a solid financial plan for the next 5-10 years, do up a full budget and then see if you really don't like the M at that stage. It will get you motivated to do some planning and will actually get you some time behind the wheel of your brand new car, which if you trade in right now you may regret a few years down the road.

[funkin]

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Love my B8 S4. If you want a single car vs a summer and a winter car that's the way I would go and have gone. Feel free to pm me with any questions you have specific to the cars

[ToXicXxX]

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i'm totally backing this.

i think you've proved that you're not ready for a "powerful" car so something practical seems more right. i also find it classless to talk about your financial situation. it comes across as bragging.

I've been driving "powerful cars" all my life.

I'm really starting to dislike this community, it seems to be nothing but down talking people. The focus is on cars, not what you "think" someone does or does not deserve. If I wanted someone's opinion on that lord knows I'd ask a friend, or family member. I have not in the slightest disclosed my financial situation, nor will I, I have simply stated I am able to budget for a car, and being that cars are my one passion in life, I'd find that acceptable.

Let's just get this out of the way now, so it can no longer be brought up. Yes, I'm young, I now have a good start to life, I have already made financial plans and have accounted for a nicer car while still having the last year's of my university covered as well as property for myself. I am not an idiot, I would not put all my chickens in one basket. Just because you are older then me gives you Bo right to tell me what is best, and I'd ask any of you keep it to yourself from now on, because it's falling on deaf ears. I asked an opinion on the viability of a B8.5 S4 as a daily driver, preferably from someone who owns one, not your opinion of me. And if you want to talk about classless, publicly harassing someone would definitely fall under that. If you at all understand the point I'm trying to make, this will stop now, but if you want to continue to be childish, you'll likelly reply with some snide and witty remark.

Now, if we could move on to the topic at hand, that would be swell.

I read what you wrote on the B8/.5 Mantis, much appreciated.